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25/08/2013

Barbirolli / Halle - Vaughan Williams. Symphony 2 - PYE 1958

Ralph Vaughan Williams:
Symphony no.2.  "A London Symphony"    
I:  Lento - Allegro risoluto  ~  II:  Lento  ~  III:  Scherzo (Nocturne) Allegro vivace  ~
IV:  Andante con moto - Maestoso alla marcia (quasi lento) - Allegro - Lento - Epilogue (Andante sostenuto)
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The Hallé Orchestra  conducted by  Sir John Barbirolli     
PYE  CCL 30134  1959 LP/matrices: APL.0070 -1W / APL.0071 -4W   
(not Stereo until the feeble 1965 'Golden Guinea')    Recorded: 28-29 Dec 1957 - Free Trade Hall, Manchester
1936 Henry Wood recording on HISTORICAL     EMG review / sleeve-note >>>

10 comments:

  1. Hi TinEar: if the Phoenixa CD is to be believed, it was 28/29 December 1957. 19 June 1956 was the 8th symphony recorded by the Mercury team. However, EMI reissue CDs are not totally reliable when it comes to data. I only know this from that CD, so look forward to hearing it from the source. I think Boult is usually more reliable as a guide to RVW than Barbirolli, but AB himself wrote to JB saying he admired JB's ability to turn on the emotion, which AB admitted that he lacked. In this symphony however, I think Boult's cooler methods pay off in the finale - the climax in his hands is absolutely terrifying.
    regards

    Andrew Smith

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    1. Was misled by the MoosicWeb review by Herr Barnett - where the dates are: (2)1956 (8)1957..but #8 was reviewed by Gramophone in Aug.1956..
      http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2002/Apr02/RVW28.htm

      Given the mediocre sound of the 1965 stereo LP (not apparent with the Gounod/Dvorak if you compare the bucolic CCL30153 with the 1967 GSGC) I thought it may be somewhat due to the stereo taping compared to the mono...or not....hence this upload - originally intended for Oct.2010...so probably forgot that I intended correcting the date!

      EMG didn't like Barbirolli - the above review is not dissimilar to theirs for his Elgar 2...

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  2. Thanks for this wonderful record - a fine transfer of a passionate performance.

    EMG's reviewers could sometimes miss the point, couldn't they?

    Malcolm Walker's discography of Barbirolli (at the back of Michael Kennedy's biography) gives 28-29 December 1957 as the dates for this recording.

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    1. The '50's Barbirolli's stand-up quite well - but EMG kept-on about his 'style' until nearly his last gasp.

      However, there's little justification uploading any more Barbirolli's as they are likely 'all' on CD; but thought this 'in-your-face' mono was technically interesting/worthwhile.

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  3. Herr Barnett - is the joke intentional? If so, very funny!
    If not - oops!
    Andrew Smith

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    1. For some 'obscure' reason he managed to annoy me !!!!

      'More please, Mr Pristine' Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......

      Anyway, out of curiosity, how does this compare to the EMI/Nixa CD (I don't know if the linked review to Dutton's later mastering is exactly the same 'sound' as EMI's earlier-on....I sort of assume it was 'tweaked' (?)

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  4. Thank you for share this, I love both, Vaughan Williams music and Barbirolli ways of making music.

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  5. Yes..very nice - almost 100 downloads (I see the Klemperer/Mahler 2 is now over 500)- but suspect this is the last upload and will remove the 'comments', as you have done, in a couple of days and 'mothball' the blogs....

    ...which at least will enable Someone to flog even more dodgy '24 bit' bootlegs from faked-up CD rip-offs of 'old master performances'...

    Ha Ha Ha...what MUGS!!!

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  6. Many thanks for sharing this. I can't actually think of many things I like better than 'in-your-face' Barbirolli mono!

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    1. Pretty dynamic sound-quality - almost 'guaranteed' to blow your 'speakers if the volume is set too high @ the beginning.
      The PYE mastered/pressed Barbirolli Society RVW 7 (HMV originally) is quite good too - though am now verrrrry bored manually removing 'ticks'n'pops from 'mint' LP's

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