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28 Oct 2012

Otto Klemperer / Philharmonia - Brahms. Symphony 4 - Columbia 1957

Johannes Brahms:  Symphony no.4 in E minor, op.98
I:  Allegro non troppo   ~  II:  Andante moderato  ~  III:  Allegro giocoso  ~  IV:  Allegro energico e passionato
2 files zip FLAC   Mega Download
Columbia  SAX 2350  Original 1960 pressing/matrices: YAX 269 -2 / YAX 270 -2
The Philharmonia Orchestra  conducted by  Otto Klemperer 
Rec:  Sym.1: 29/31 Oct. + 1 Nov.1956 + 28 March 1957 ~ Sym.4: 27-29 March 1957, Kingsway Hall.
 'Mr Pristine's' 'new/bargain' version: it's... Amazing how Cheap he can sell El-Cheapo 1970's EMI box sets...      ......  his Sym.4 mvt.1 sample
- and listening to the RH channel only discloses a very weird 'phasey' sound (not to mention the 'usual' jacked-up treble...)...
[Apparently (see RMCR thread) it has very poor phase stability @c.26% - whereas even my 'slightly defective' initial transfer of Brahms 4 is @ 87%!!]  June 2013 update. A recent 'Fanfare' review castigates the 'Pristine Audio' LP dubbings.. (almost fell-off-my-perch..)   Sleeve-notes, etc >>>


May re-transfer this Brahms Sym.4 due to a possible slight stylus suspension fault (which didn't seem to affect the sound, but could be seen on the RH channel waveform) .  

Another test still shows the odd waveform disparity (not evident using a different cartridge >>>) - so am 'foxed'.
Have had a '2nd opinion' confirmation that, using that different cartridge, the 1960 matrix is also sonically much superior to a later transfer ('-7') in the 1970s SLS box-set (and as almost certainly used by 'Mr Pristine'..).  See screenshot - showing the precise channel balance on the 1960 mastering - but the late 1960's matrix is noticeably inferior.



6 comments:

  1. thanks a lot, dear Tin Ear!
    looking forward to uploading of the 1st symphony.
    its rendition by Klemperer has been among my favourites since i've heard it for the 1st time.

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    1. Before uploading the 1st I'd like to know if there are any 'sound problems' with this!!!

      I don't really intend uploading Sym. 2/3 + the 2 overtures - but may consider the mono Haydn variations (33CX 1241 c/w Hindemith 'Visione')...as was intending uploading some mono Philharmonia's (Dobrowen/Malko).

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  2. Great recording and great transfer. Thank you for sharing this. No 'sound problems' whatsoever. Quite the contrary. Look forward to your 1st!

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    1. I wouldn't normally ask for 'second opinions' - but am somewhat bemused by the RH channel's 'performance' (if you check the file/s via 'Audacity' you'll see what I mean) and it might have something to do with the suspension (30-odd years old..as are most of the cartridges/styli I use though never seen this 'effect' before!) - but listening to mvt.1 via the CD-RW it seemed rather decent (the treble, at least via that recorder, was slightly more 'obvious' than listening to the LP).

      It's not as though I only have one cartridge (have, probably, 30 different combos) but may use a different one for the 1st (I've never listened to Klemperer's 2nd -or, hardly, the 3rd: was thinking of uploading the Cantelli/Philharmonia of that from the 'best' source...a new/original 10" BLP.

      BTW: the 4th, above, is in the original 'shop-condition': never wet-cleaned in over 50 years...and was, fortunately, reasonably silent-surfaced!
      BTW2: if copyright allows may, in 2013, upload Klemperer's 'Deutsche Requiem' from the original Columbia SAX's: which sound superior to the 1970's SLS box-set reissue...

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  3. I aim you to transfer the 1st symphony, this PU set up seems to work very good, as I told you, 87% of phase stability is normal, and 0.1dB difference between channel is not significative. Could you please told us which cartridge and stylus did you use for this transfer? Thanks again.

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    1. Have replied Privately.

      Am uncertain whether I should use this particular cartridge for uploads (also used it for the Elgar 2/Barbirolli: and would, anyway, have been happier to have had the 1978 reissue of that - as Barbirolli's Vaughan Williams Sym.7 sounds superior in the 1977 PYE recut (SJB100) compared to the HMV ALP...

      ..hence the 'delay' in uploading Klemperer's Brahms Sym.1..

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